Friday, May 15, 2009

Day Eight - 5/15

[14:11] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: fucking Rockets dude!!!
[14:12] Aaron Rosenberger: aaron brooks is the best point guard in the playoffs not named rondo?
[14:12] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: of the point guards left, yeah
[14:12] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i mean mo is more consistent
[14:12] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: but brooks has been playing better
[14:13] Aaron Rosenberger: he pretty much carries them whenever they need big buckets
[14:16] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i know man, i'm concerned about him showing up in game 7 though
[14:16] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: he didn't in 5, and they need him
[14:16] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: dude, i'm so on board with Luis Scola. he's the best
[14:16] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i think its because he doesn't play very Euro (yes, I know hes South American, but they all get lumped into the Euro category for some reason)
[14:17] Aaron Rosenberger: "he's got some hood in him,"
[14:17] Aaron Rosenberger: as the immortal charles barkley once said
[14:18] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: did he really? thats awesome. he totally does
[14:18] Aaron Rosenberger: if they win game 7 in la, i will just lost my damn mind
[14:18] Aaron Rosenberger: yeah, i heard the chuckster say it on inside the nba once
[14:19] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i mean i feel like they are as good of a candidate as any to win that game!!
[14:19] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i don't understand how Kobe just disappears like he does
[14:19] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: I think Battier is really in his head
[14:20] Aaron Rosenberger: maybe kobe is sad because coach k loves battier more than him
[14:20] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i think that might be the case
[14:21] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i mean, LeBron simply doesn't lose that game last night, right?
[14:21] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: and yet, Kobe is supposed to have the killer instinct?
[14:21] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i don't get it
[14:21] Aaron Rosenberger: a great player sure as hell doesn't let his team fall behind 21-3
[14:22] Aaron Rosenberger: i'm just praying that this year is the end of kobe's prime
[14:22] Aaron Rosenberger: i'm so sick of him
[14:22] Aaron Rosenberger: i hope the rockets beat them on sunday, then his body pulls a kg next year
[14:22] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i mean, it has to at some point, right??
[14:22] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: maybe he is here forever
[14:23] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: never to win a title, only to go to the conference semis/finals every year
[14:23] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: and serve to annoy us
[14:23] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: both with his personality and with the annoying folks who try to defend them
[14:23] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: (full disclosure, I accidentally typed "with her" at first....and almost left it)
[14:25] Aaron Rosenberger: yeah, i just don't get him at all
[14:25] Aaron Rosenberger: he has the talent and the drive to win titles on his own
[14:25] Aaron Rosenberger: but he just can't get it done
[14:26] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i know. i don't get it.
[14:26] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: Ron is totally in his head too
[14:26] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: and its like, you can see that he knows it, and he wishes it weren't the case, but he just can't get them out
[14:30] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i'm so baffled by the rockets. it makes absolutely no sense that they are winning, and yet when you watch them it makes perfect sense
[14:30] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: it doesn't feel like its an accident
[14:34] Aaron Rosenberger: it's totally weird
[14:34] Aaron Rosenberger: like, of course carl landry and chuck hayes can hold their own against pao and odom
[14:34] Aaron Rosenberger: wait, what?
[14:35] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: it has reeeeeeeally exposed Pau and Odom for their lack of defensive prowess
[14:35] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i mean there HAS to be a way to use Pau and Odom, but I don't think that doing it with Kobe is the right way
[14:36] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: and i'm not sure what the right way is
[14:36] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i'm inclined to think that a core threesome of Pau at 5, Odom at 4, and CP3 at the 1 would be optimal?
[14:37] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: but i don't know how well Pau could put away CP3 alley oops.
[14:37] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: possibly intriguing statement coming in
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[14:37] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: Pau may not be suited for the NBA game, at least in terms of being an NBA champion
[14:38] Aaron Rosenberger: i think you're right
[14:38] Aaron Rosenberger: he's a great offensive big man
[14:39] Aaron Rosenberger: but you have to defend a little if you want to win a title
[14:39] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i agree, and he just doesn't have much toughness, which stands to reason if you look at his frame
[14:40] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i mean i don't know, maybe if you paired him with a nasty 4 (or Odom with a nasty 5) it would work, but I don't think those two work together
[14:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: WAIT HOLY SHIT
[14:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: lets say the warriors keep B-Diddy
[14:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: and trade S-Jax straight up for Odom
[14:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: wait i don't know
[14:42] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i guess Odom plays down low a lot more in LA than Jax played in GS even though both are playing the 4
[14:54] Aaron Rosenberger: you've got a point, though
[14:54] Aaron Rosenberger: you're forgetting bynum
[14:54] Aaron Rosenberger: move odom, hope bynum is not the flop he currently looks like
[14:54] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: dude, bynum is forgetting bynum right now
[14:54] Aaron Rosenberger: and sjax, bynum pau is badass
[14:55] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i think they definitely do need to move odom if they don't win the title
[14:55] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: do you think Pau would be better suited as the 4 to Bynum's 5?
[14:56] Aaron Rosenberger: definitely
[14:56] Aaron Rosenberger: pau works well from the high post
[14:56] Aaron Rosenberger: and defensively, that just makes a whole lot more sense
[14:57] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: yeah, that does make a lot more sense. i don't know what the hell happened to bynum last night, he looked like he was finally getting it in game 6
[15:01] Aaron Rosenberger: there are only two or three options at this point:
[15:01] Aaron Rosenberger: he's not healthy
[15:01] Aaron Rosenberger: he's not actually very good
[15:01] Aaron Rosenberger: kobe and phil have broken him
[15:01] Aaron Rosenberger: i think that's it
[15:03] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: yeah, i think that might be it. i don't think playing in LA helps either. as soon as he started looking decent the media was all over him as the greatest thing ever
[15:04] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: and i think it is a bit of a combonation of all of those things
[15:06] Aaron Rosenberger: or maybe he and greg oden are in a secret competition to see who can be a bigger bust
[15:06] Aaron Rosenberger: and drag it out the longest
[15:06] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i think that is entirely possible
[15:07] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: what are you predicting for Game 7? (both of them)
[15:07] Aaron Rosenberger: houston (power of positive thinking) and boston
[15:07] Aaron Rosenberger: i'm done thinking that anyone other than lebron can beat the garden crowd when it coutns
[15:08] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i think i'm with you. If LA wins, it'll be big, if Houston wins, it'll be by like 10 or 12. Boston will win an ugly affair by about 10
[15:09] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i'm ok with the houston-LA series either way. i mean i REALLY want Kobe to get shut down and the rockets to win, but then again if the Lakers win, Kobe gets (at least) two games IN FUCKING DENVER
[15:09] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: awesome
[15:09] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: Denver-Houston would be a REALLY intriguing series on the Xs and Os front
[15:14] Aaron Rosenberger: whatever happens, i think that the western finals will be better than the east
[15:14] Aaron Rosenberger: i think the cavs will absolutely destroy either boston or orlando
[15:14] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i think you're right. the eastern finals will be just sad
[15:15] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: people keep saying that Boston has too much pride to get swept
[15:15] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: however, i'll point to a few things
[15:15] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: first, people said that about the pistons in the first round. now, i know that the heart of a champion is far different than the heart of a-team-that-might-as-well-be-in-cabo-already, but still
[15:15] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: and, if you'll remember, in Jordan's first title run he swept the mighty Bad Boys
[15:20] Aaron Rosenberger: pride will only take you so far when you're old, tired, and hurt
[15:20] Aaron Rosenberger: and lebron is on another level right now
[15:21] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: truehoop had a huge to-do again today about the kobe-lebron debate
[15:21] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: with a bunch of bloggers
[15:21] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: can we give that shit up? Kobe is an amazing basketball player. LeBron is otherworldly.
[15:21] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: Kobe won his three titles playing understudy to the modern-day Bill Russell. LeBron hasn't had that luxury.
[15:22] Aaron Rosenberger: kobe's been such a bitch for the last two years in the playoffs that he doesn't deserve to be compared to anyone
[15:22] Aaron Rosenberger: there should be no debate unless kobe beats lebron in the finals
[15:23] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: exactly. kobe-backers always want to point to the rings, or to the arsenal of ways to score
[15:23] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i don't care how many ways you can score. HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU SCORE, AND HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU WIN
[15:23] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: case closed.
[15:24] Aaron Rosenberger: and how many times have you completely fucking disappeared when your team needed you?
[15:24] Aaron Rosenberger: it's just getting absurd at this point
[15:25] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: totally. the other thing i've noticed is that people only mention kobe as a great passer when they are comparing him to LBJ
[15:25] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: LeBron is so far ahead of him in that category, its insane
[15:26] Aaron Rosenberger: the only guy who is on lebron's level as a passer is nash
[15:26] Aaron Rosenberger: and even that might be a stretch
[15:26] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: I know that assists aren't 100% accurate, but its a yardstick, and lebron averaged nearly twice as many
[15:26] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: yeah exactly
[15:27] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: plus, he rebounds, and don't give me that shit that its because he's bigger, because Kobe was equaled in rebounds this year by RAJON RONDO
[15:28] Aaron Rosenberger: kobe scores points
[15:28] Aaron Rosenberger: he's probably better at that than anyone else in the leage
[15:29] Aaron Rosenberger: but you can't count on him to do anything else
[15:29] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: exactly. i'm so tired of that argument.
[15:30] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: Lowry came in last night and looked absolutely atrocious. i was dejected.
[15:31] Aaron Rosenberger: he was like a little kid trying to play with the big kids
[15:31] Aaron Rosenberger: he kept trying, and they just kept sending his shit back in his face
[15:32] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i know, it made me sad on multiple levels. i have a soft spot for chubby guards, a soft spot for Villanova, and an extremely romanticized view of the city of Philadelphia
[15:32] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: he touches all three
[15:33] Aaron Rosenberger: unfortunately, i don't think we can hope that he'll play any better in a game 7 on the road
[15:33] Aaron Rosenberger: damn
[15:35] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i don't think so either, what a bummer. he hasn't really played well at all this series
[15:35] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i think there is hope for him, he just needs to develop a mid-range jumper
[15:35] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: which is kinda the kiss of death for tweener guards
[15:35] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: that sentence has been said about so many nba players
[15:40] Aaron Rosenberger: that sentence and the fact that i want him to succeed is the double kiss of death
[15:40] Aaron Rosenberger: see: stuckey, rodney
[15:40] Aaron Rosenberger: tinsley, jamaal
[15:41] Aaron Rosenberger: douglas-roberts, chris
[15:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: dude
[15:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: douglas-roberts will pan out
[15:41] Aaron Rosenberger: the list could go on for years
[15:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: oh wait
[15:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: i once said that about telfair, sebastian
[15:41] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: add him to both lists
[15:42] Aaron Rosenberger: yup
[15:42] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: if Through the Fire had been made before his draft he might have gone first
[15:42] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: that was one romantic view of a mediocre basketball player
[15:43] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: speaking of willfully forgetting a player's flaws
[15:43] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eziogfe5XSI
[15:43] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: never forget
[15:43] Aaron Rosenberger: yeah, it made him look like a cross between iverson, isaiah thomas, and bob cousy
[15:44] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: dude totally. the thing is, had he gone to Louisville and played under Pitino he probably wouldnt have been much better. name me a PG that Pitino has developed into a solid NBA player
[15:44] Aaron Rosenberger: not only is that one of my favorite dunks of all time
[15:44] ajrosenberger@gmail.com: JOEY DORSEY!!!

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